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Airline Bravo. Who flew?
On the 20th flight to Hurghada by Bravo Airways. I read negative reviews that the flight is delayed for a day, and you have to wait at the airport without water and food. I no longer want to fly.
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I flew "Bravo" to Turkey. Everything was on schedule, no hiccups. I even liked it.
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answered 7 years ago
What will change from the answers to this question? Tickets have already been bought from you, I doubt that you will refuse the tour, for which "already paid".
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answered 7 years ago
I flew this company to Sharm. Flying Boeing. landed on time, the flight went smoothly.
The return trip was also without incident.
The return trip was also without incident.
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answered 7 years ago
There was a couple of days ago a discussion on the topic of maintenance and airlines, including Bravo airlines
https://www.turpravda.ua/eg/question-74752.html?p=3#pagination
The airline is not very good, with old planes, but
my youngest friend who was afraid to fly with these airlines and all the time asked the travel agency for a tour without this airline, but not Bravo. Last year, when I was vacationing in Turkey, I fell in love with the animator so much)))))) that when I arrived back, Kyiv decided to return to my love and bought a tour where the Bravo airline. Everything is fine without flight delays, she flew, she was not afraid, only when she was already returning back again, she realized that she had exactly the Bravo airline that she was afraid of all the time
https://www.turpravda.ua/eg/question-74752.html?p=3#pagination
The airline is not very good, with old planes, but
my youngest friend who was afraid to fly with these airlines and all the time asked the travel agency for a tour without this airline, but not Bravo. Last year, when I was vacationing in Turkey, I fell in love with the animator so much)))))) that when I arrived back, Kyiv decided to return to my love and bought a tour where the Bravo airline. Everything is fine without flight delays, she flew, she was not afraid, only when she was already returning back again, she realized that she had exactly the Bravo airline that she was afraid of all the time
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answered 7 years ago
Yes, we have lotteries with any airline, not only with BRAVO, does UIA have new planes on charters? No old man! Well, I didn’t see complaints about AZUR here, but I flew by plane, which apparently was after repair, smelled like leather. And I didn’t worry about my knees, they fit under the chair - they didn’t compact the chairs to increase capacity.
Low-cost airlines have the best planes, all new, but I have not heard that they flew on charter!
Low-cost airlines have the best planes, all new, but I have not heard that they flew on charter!
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answered 7 years ago
It's not that old. Aircraft have a "certificate of airworthiness", which means they are fit for operation. Bravo has a small fleet of aircraft ... there are only 6 of them. For example, MAU has 43 aircraft. This means that the company is much more solid, more staff, more opportunities for technical support ...
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answered 7 years ago
I will not argue about certificates! And for 70 years of my life I have flown enough, and I understand the difference between an old aircraft and a new one, despite the certificates. Airplanes are falling. not certificates. For me, flights are worse than at UIA, in some of their planes I couldn’t put my legs under the seat, they were in the aisle!
But I don't want to argue. If "the planes have a 'certificate of airworthiness', then they are airworthy", why then does the TS worry about flying on BRAVO? After all, they will let a serviceable plane, albeit an ancient one.
But I don't want to argue. If "the planes have a 'certificate of airworthiness', then they are airworthy", why then does the TS worry about flying on BRAVO? After all, they will let a serviceable plane, albeit an ancient one.
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answered 7 years ago
In the Bravo fleet, if I'm not mistaken, there are 2 DC aircraft - narrow-body, Engines are installed on the aircraft body (like TU - 134, for example). And because of this, the last 3-4 rows are not comfortable enough. Last year they were fed on board, unlike other airlines.
As for the delays, I think they are not on purpose. In extreme cases, you can use the services of Airfrance or Lufthansa - they like to go on strike - sit at the airport for a week :)
As for the delays, I think they are not on purpose. In extreme cases, you can use the services of Airfrance or Lufthansa - they like to go on strike - sit at the airport for a week :)
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answered 7 years ago
We also read a lot of negative things before the flight. It turned out even better than UIA. There were no delays. Came across this airline 3 times, everything is in order.
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answered 7 years ago
Twice we flew to charm and back with Bravo from TPG. Not a leg anymore. All airlines have flight delays, but they are usually due to weather conditions or technical condition, while Bravo has due to the lack of aircraft, which they practically do not have and for almost all flights planes are rented from other air carriers. And the phrase sounds like the flight is operated by the airline ............... on the order of the Bravo airline. The planes are all killed, stop flying for 4 hours if your seat back does not recline. you do not return to normal. Permanent damage to luggage and complete frostbite for compensation for damage.
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answered 7 years ago
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It's not worth arguing. Incidents happen both with new aircraft and with old ones. By the way, there are no fewer failures on new aircraft. I'm talking about something else. A large park is a large company, where all the necessary technical support services are present. A small fleet of aircraft is an indicator of the scale of the company.
On a new aircraft, at the beginning of its operation, the maximum number of av / technical failures occurs. Then (in a year or two) a long period of stable operation begins (the number of failures is minimal), and at the very end of the aircraft’s operation, the failure rate begins to increase again.
Then, I very much doubt that a small company (a fleet of 5 ... 6 aircraft) has the means to purchase a new fleet of aircraft ... the same old third-hand ones.
It's not worth arguing. Incidents happen both with new aircraft and with old ones. By the way, there are no fewer failures on new aircraft. I'm talking about something else. A large park is a large company, where all the necessary technical support services are present. A small fleet of aircraft is an indicator of the scale of the company.
On a new aircraft, at the beginning of its operation, the maximum number of av / technical failures occurs. Then (in a year or two) a long period of stable operation begins (the number of failures is minimal), and at the very end of the aircraft’s operation, the failure rate begins to increase again.
Then, I very much doubt that a small company (a fleet of 5 ... 6 aircraft) has the means to purchase a new fleet of aircraft ... the same old third-hand ones.
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answered 7 years ago
So "0676307776 .." says the same thing. A small company is not able to effectively provide those. support (to deliver the failed unit to a foreign airport), you either have to announce a flight delay, or turn to the same UIA for help ...
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answered 7 years ago
I'm not going! Everything that you wrote is studied at the institute in the course "Operation of machines and mechanisms", and I am a mechanical engineer by education. This is precisely the parabola of failures that is given there.
The only thing is that your example is not suitable for low-cost companies. Completely new aircraft are purchased there and intensively operated in flights, with practically no stops at airports, and they may not have a serious technical base for repairs at all. Several years pass and they sell these aircraft and buy new ones. And this applies to both large low-cost airlines and small ones.
But in poor Ukraine, small airlines are created with very old aircraft, bought from those who wrote them off from the same UIA, and then various problems and, accordingly, rumors.
That is my opinion! I think that we have gone far in answering the question about BRAVO aircraft
The only thing is that your example is not suitable for low-cost companies. Completely new aircraft are purchased there and intensively operated in flights, with practically no stops at airports, and they may not have a serious technical base for repairs at all. Several years pass and they sell these aircraft and buy new ones. And this applies to both large low-cost airlines and small ones.
But in poor Ukraine, small airlines are created with very old aircraft, bought from those who wrote them off from the same UIA, and then various problems and, accordingly, rumors.
That is my opinion! I think that we have gone far in answering the question about BRAVO aircraft
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answered 7 years ago
All the same, criticism of the airline may reduce the attractiveness of the low prices of the TPG tour operator and force him to reconsider his attitude towards the carrier. A spoiled vacation due to flight delays, the terrible state of the aircraft fleet, and security is not worth the saved 100-200 dollars. TPG and Bravo have 2 clients.
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answered 7 years ago
Now TPG is transported to Egypt by UIA, not bravo. True, they also have Turkish Airlines, but there is a flight with transfers of 19 hours.
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answered 7 years ago
alex45
We are colleagues. I am also an engineer. mechanic (aviation). In general, we are talking about the same thing ... about Ukrainian companies, where aircraft "from third parties" are present to a greater extent. If it’s about trust, then I personally prefer to fly UIA aircraft (whatever, but the company). But I don’t particularly bother about this ... I flew with all the companies listed here.
We are colleagues. I am also an engineer. mechanic (aviation). In general, we are talking about the same thing ... about Ukrainian companies, where aircraft "from third parties" are present to a greater extent. If it’s about trust, then I personally prefer to fly UIA aircraft (whatever, but the company). But I don’t particularly bother about this ... I flew with all the companies listed here.
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answered 7 years ago
Last year I flew to Sharm from TPG to Bravo by DC plane, I read a lot of negative things, the plane of 1991 G.V. flew from Zhulyan, without any problems on time and quite comfortably.
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answered 7 years ago
We flew to Tunisia. They flew there with a big delay of 3 hours. But we would still arrive at 12 at night, and so at 3 at night we arrived at the hotel - the difference is small. They flew back without issue.
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answered 7 years ago
Well. Changed the departure time to 18 hours! From 3 am to 8 pm. The day was stolen!
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answered 7 years ago
In what way was it stolen? Did you pay for an early check-in at the hotel?
There is a very simple solution to the problem of transferring charters (that's exactly how I decided it for myself) - to fly regularly!
There is a very simple solution to the problem of transferring charters (that's exactly how I decided it for myself) - to fly regularly!
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answered 7 years ago
Alyonka, can you tell me how you can fly a regular flight to Sharm and Hurghada in 4 hours and cost $ 200 round trip?))))
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answered 7 years ago
Author, I sincerely sympathize with you. At least they warned you in advance, but I somehow flew by anex, so I spent 10 hours in Borispol, the flight was postponed every two hours, while they were waiting in the waiting room, then not in the duty free zone))))) I also watch almost everyone now scoreboard day online in Boryspil, so many flights of dumb airlines fly. This is understandable, there are many who want it, but the Mau and the wind rose cannot transport everyone.. Don't worry, everything will be fine.
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answered 7 years ago
Although I'm not Alyonka, but I will answer. You are crying here that the airline stole your day from you, but at the same time you are not ready to pay for a normal flight with a fixed departure time. It is necessary to somehow decide what is more expensive for you - money or comfort.
There are no unsolvable situations - there are unpleasant decisions.
There are no unsolvable situations - there are unpleasant decisions.
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answered 7 years ago
Sorry for messing up your nickname. And I didn't cry, I'm not the author)))
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answered 7 years ago
Well, I didn’t address “you” specifically to you, but in general to those tourists who complain about charters.
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answered 7 years ago
I flew to Bravo twice, once to Hurghada with Zhulyan, everything is ok, we flew by an airbus, albeit an old one, but they fed us, unlike UIA. by plane, B737 or A320, but again they were fed, although it’s 2 hours to fly to Antalya with a penny, against UIA where it’s not like Turkey-Egypt, but in Dubai they even sell just a coffee drink. ((
Although he was afraid that he would get to fly with MacDouglas, which Bravo also has, it’s somehow “fearful” on these old people, plus my friends told me that it was cramped and dumb.
PS detain everyone and UIA and Azur and Bravo And Windrose, etc., whoever is lucky, from my practice 4-6 hours of delay are seeds, compared to when UIA canceled the Bangkok-Kiev flight and the airport-hotel near him, for a couple of days, he knew the city well and how to spend time, unlike packets who spent time at the TV and the window.
Although he was afraid that he would get to fly with MacDouglas, which Bravo also has, it’s somehow “fearful” on these old people, plus my friends told me that it was cramped and dumb.
PS detain everyone and UIA and Azur and Bravo And Windrose, etc., whoever is lucky, from my practice 4-6 hours of delay are seeds, compared to when UIA canceled the Bangkok-Kiev flight and the airport-hotel near him, for a couple of days, he knew the city well and how to spend time, unlike packets who spent time at the TV and the window.
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answered 7 years ago
We flew from Krivoy Rog on McDonnell Douglas MD-80, BRAVO airlines, if you sit at the end of the plane, then you won’t hear your neighbor, if at the beginning, then it’s tolerable, but with my height of 180 cm, the seats are very close to each other, and the person sitting in front will "sleep" on your lap. Well, the planes themselves have already taken off their resource for a long time, but if there is no choice, then look for the pluses - by plane it is definitely faster than by train or bus))) Have a good rest!!!
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answered 6 years ago