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Snorkeling tube, where and how to buy?
There are no problems with fins (my daughter rents them, she is a professional swimmer), with a mask too. But the snorkel... Either I can’t breathe (I’m not a good swimmer), or the snorkel is not of high quality, in general, after 2-3 breaths a mouthful of water... Is it possible to buy a snorkeling snorkel, where? And how to choose so that water does not get in ...
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5 subscribers  • asked 2010-07-0814 years ago
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аватар papa74
You can buy it anywhere. Of course, I recommend buying it at home, preferably branded. With a valve, you must. If water gets into the tube, you need to exhale and the water will pour out through the valve ...
аватар papa74
Let someone look from the side if you are not wetting water with the end of the tube - adjust it twisting along the axis. Everything will be OK!
аватар rula79
Thank you! I’m diving in the bathroom today, I’ll see if I’m really immersing myself incorrectly, the tube is branded, with a valve ...
аватар papa74
In the bathroom, it is unlikely that the body will come out to be immersed, as it is in the sea)))) Then it’s better in the pool (let the daughter test it)
Also look (if there is a valve) at the valve rubber. It is likely that a grain of sand (hair, mote, etc.) could get in and the rubber does not fit snugly into the holes.
аватар Dreamer_0x01
What is the tube length? Maybe you have it for spearfishing? (They are a little shorter) When you dive into the water, feel it with your hand - does the tube stick out vertically and how many centimeters above the water? If less than 10, then change the handset. If 10 or more, then you can swim quite comfortably even with a wave.
A very common mistake is the wrong position of the head in the water - many people throw it back, trying to look forward - while the tube is horizontal and draws water. The face should be clearly below, then the tube will be in the normal position. When we look above the water, we take the tube out of our mouth for the reason described above.
+ take papa74's advice - check the valve.
It can be not only clogged, but also overheated and dried in the sun.
Stick the tube into the water and blow from the top end - see where the bubbles come from.
аватар miki08
I bought myself with two valves, upper and lower. Everything is fine, but if the wave is still flooding. Once upon a time in the USSR they gave me an Italian pipe, there was a float at the end, this pipe guaranteed 100%, but now they don’t make them. Therefore, you need to learn to constantly exhale sharply like a spit, otherwise you will still have problems.
аватар Dreamer_0x01
That's right, and not only spit, but also hold your breath in any emergency situation in the water.
For me, for example, when pouring water into the tube, a reflex is immediately triggered and the breathing chamber is locked, as a result, you can orient yourself and either blow out the water, or raise your muzzle above the water and inhale past the tube.
аватар miki08
All this together is called the technique of breathing through a tube, and this must be learned and trained, otherwise very often there will be problems and no pleasure. If you have a pro daughter, take a few lessons from her. Yes, and the same flippers must be able to own the same thing, I advise you to learn from her.
аватар Dreamer_0x01
Do not scare a woman so much, yes, this is a breathing technique, but you can learn this in one day, you just need to dive at least a meter at least a few times in the pool, then everything will immediately become clear, and how to blow the tube, and how to feel the leak and have time to close the breather.
And fins, by the way, if you are not going to crawl belly over corals and are split into narrow ones, as well as occupy your hands with a camera, in general, they are not so much needed.
аватар miki08
Well, about one day you got excited, I am now resting in Gribovka, the Black Sea. So I can’t put my wife on fins for the fifth day already, and I haven’t started snorkeling yet.
аватар Dreamer_0x01
Breathing through a snorkel is easier to learn than rowing with fins. Checked on my wife ;)
аватар miki08
Everyone has an individual! And with our precious ones, this is a separate song. Many people still cannot swim with snorkels, it is easier for them without them. You can understand that coordination of legs, arms, and even breathing is not given to every man. You're lucky, I'm happy for you.
аватар volkis
Dreamer noted everything correctly ... the position of the head and the installation of the trumpet relative to the mask. My wife and I had a lot of trouble getting the right tube position. The easiest way is to regulate it yourself ... lie down on the water, relax - head in a natural position, i.e. since on land (neither pulled up nor lowered) - checked with your hand the tube should be perpendicular (plus or minus) to the surface of the water. such adjustment gives some freedom i.e. You can, if necessary, slightly "raise" / "lower" your head.
I can also assume that you may not be taking the mouthpiece correctly. I had a case - a friend’s wife complained about the water in the tube ... I still couldn’t understand where it comes from ... it turned out that the mouthpiece was not holding correctly in her mouth. correctly hold so that the "skirt" of the mouthpiece is on the outside of the teeth. :)
Well, the 3rd reason for the water in the tube is the valve. papa74 told you everything. But I, an ardent opponent of valves in pipes, advise you to buy an ordinary pipe.
I've had this http://www.beuchat.ru/sysfiles/283_599.jpg for 15 years already... I haven't seen anything more convenient.
аватар volkis
PS. not a cheap Mares model with a valve (bought for my wife) is lying around in the pantry. How many swear words I said through her when I suffered with her in Sharm. It leaked even with the valve tightly muffled ...
As a result, now both my wife and son have valveless tubes. They swim and nothing gets numb even in the conditions of Mars Alamov wave :)
аватар volkis
Dreamer :) As for the fins, I categorically disagree with you. In the sea without fins, not a foot! :) Fins are like a bicycle on dry land! This is freedom of movement! This is safety! In general, fins are our FSE! ;)
аватар Dreamer_0x01
I don’t know, I don’t need a bicycle on land, I walk normally. So it is in the water - I use fins for photographing and for crawling into "narrow" places. The speed is about the same.
And to learn to swim initially you still need to do without fins. To "feel" the water and learn not to sink.
аватар miki08
That's right, if a person does not swim confidently, then flippers are most likely an increased danger. And in general, snorkeling should be approached carefully, no matter how it is a rather technical type of recreation. You still need to select a set of mask, snorkel and fins very carefully, so that you would enjoy, not pain in your legs, and constantly choke on water. Yes, who knows how, and often does it, he can afford, in principle, any kit. But watching the vacationers who are fond of this, you immediately see with what care people choose their ammunition.
аватар papa74
"In terms of speed, it turns out approximately the same." Is it with and without fins?
аватар Dreamer_0x01
Yes, with and without fins. And I don’t mean “minute” speed, but average, when the swim lasts about an hour and a half, when you don’t have to chase anywhere. And, of course, the fact is also taken into account that in flippers they row mainly with their feet, their arms dangle, and without fins they row with their legs and arms. Of course, if you work with fins at full speed and even help with your hands, then there is no chance to catch up. And with a calm snorkel along the reef - it's quite normal.
аватар miki08
Fins are needed not only for high-speed swimming, but if you know how, you can slow down, turn around, change the depth of diving, very quickly rise to the surface if you didn’t calculate your breathing or lingered underwater taking a beautiful picture. You just need to learn how to use them, and not just swim fast.
аватар Dreamer_0x01
miki08, I'm not arguing about the advantage of fins, since it is.
I'm just saying that this attribute is useful, but not from the category of "required", such as a mask. And again, we are not talking about diving and photography - I mean just a walk along the reef on top, without a camera, with free hands.
Very often, I came across the fact that during a snork tour, the guide did not take with him those who did not have fins, citing the fact that the pier would be difficult and would fall behind. And in practice, I refuted this statement many times - there were lagging behind, but they were just those who were just corny tired of paddling with excessively hard fins, put on just to "keep up".
аватар miki08
Yes, I already wrote about this, if the fins do not correspond to your physiological capabilities, then this is pure torment and nothing more. In this case, it is better for sure without fins. But you lose great opportunities to get acquainted with the flora and fauna of the Red Sea, if you dive a little deeper into the reef, then such beauties open up that you will not see from the top. The best solution is to select fins according to your capabilities (there is a huge choice now) and the main thing is training and the ability to use them. Same with the pipe. I had to swim without it for a long time due to the loss of a very cool one, which I didn’t try one torment until they advised two valves, I bought it, experimented for about an hour on the Black Sea, found all the nuances, and work began. I hope to break away in Sharm in the winter.
аватар Dreamer_0x01
miki08, everything is correct, but the conversation is not initially about experienced snorkelers, but about beginners who find it difficult to deal with the tube and what is called "start watching the world". In this situation, it is better not to wear any fins at all than to put on the first ones that come across.
аватар miki08
So it was I who raised the conversation about fins; There are no problems with fins (my daughter rents, she is a professional swimmer) this is how a woman wrote, I advised her to take lessons from her daughter with fins for one thing. It is quite possible that she will not be able to swim in them, so why carry an extra load.
аватар volkis
dreamer! That's just the first thing for beginners to learn how to swim with fins ...
There was a case, we got into low tide (swimmed in the lagoon), my wife and I were wearing fins without ... We gave a lot of strength pulling out my wife for a couple with my son ... she swims quite well (me without fins for a long distance at times - she would make two), but she had no chance against the ebb, she stood in one place for a long time ...
There was also a case when one aunt had to be "towed" - she did not feel a slight current along the reef and voila - she rows in place ... she runs out of strength ... and 15 meters to the pier ...
Friends got into a wave in Hurghada and the tide began to ebb ... it began to drift into the sea - if it weren’t for the horseradish flippers, they would have rowed back ... But they suffered fear and spent their strength ...
IMHO, if you swim not at the pier, but along the reef, then without fins, well, what the hell.
аватар miki08
You are absolutely right volkis, from personal experience when you are alone and without fins and cannot swim against the current, there is a proven method I had to apply in the lagoon where the TIRAN SHARM ***** hotel is now located, when I realized that I would not row against the current, I became dive and swim near the bottom, there is either no current, or on the contrary it goes to the shore. yes, to be in such a position is not very pleasant, believe me, I was stunned from the beginning, but then I got ready and swam safely, and if there were fins, there would definitely be no problems. Sea currents are a very unpleasant and dangerous thing. Maybe my experience will be useful to someone.
аватар Dreamer_0x01
But we, too, seem to be not the first year in the water.
I can say for myself that without fins I can swim normally and keep up with snorkelers in fins.
But if I put on fins that are unusual for me, then after the first acceleration, the muscles and knuckles on my legs begin to hurt, as if there was some kind of fracture, after that I want to take off the fins and swim further without them. If you imagine a person who is not confidently floating in such a situation, then I do not envy him.
And the problem of overcoming low tides and towing aunts is more likely not a problem of lack of fins, but a consequence of overestimating one's strengths and capabilities.
аватар Dreamer_0x01
miki08 - I didn't know about diving in the current, I'll have to try it, I think that your advice will be very useful.
аватар miki08
This method was explained to me in my youth in the service, God was merciful and I didn’t have to use it, but here I got specifically until now, even though three years have passed, the memory is not a pleasant one. Therefore, now only in fins.
аватар volkis
miki08! Taking off my hat!!! To do this, you really need to have a LOT of health.
I also didn’t know that it was possible to dive through the current ... I’m a “lake” person, I had to face negligible currents, but I think the main thing here is to remain calm and overcome panic. Do not persist "stupidly" against the current, but figure out what's what ... In your situation, I would probably swim perpendicular to the current with an eye to land on land in another place and stomp on foot there ...
I didn’t like to swim without fins before, but after I barely crawled back to the shore on the Volga, Duc, in general, I won’t climb further than 10-15 meters from the “dump point” without fins :)
Dreamer, you have a very individual leg structure :( Here you already have to choose YOUR fins very carefully...
And with a man without fins, in a swim for an hour and a half, I would not swim, no matter how well he swam.
If a person is new to this business, then first of all, try out all the equipment in the same pool in the place and only then climb into the sea. And the fins do not take up much space, you don’t have to carry a suitcase too much. So, if they don’t come in handy, it’s business then ... It’s better to overdo it than not do it :)
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