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excursion to Luxor
Who can organize an individual excursion to Luxor (by car) in the area of the Ali Baba, Jasmine or Aladdin hotel?
The trip is planned with a child of five years.
The trip is planned with a child of five years.
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I personally would be careful not to organize an individual excursion in a car, for a fairly decent distance. They drive ugly in Egypt. Large tour operators have at least some selection of bus drivers and control over them. Local travel agencies don't even have that. So if you really take such an excursion, then it’s better to have one of the big ones.
Their names seem to be known to everyone :)
Their names seem to be known to everyone :)
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answered 15 years ago
you can take a taxi and go everywhere yourself, the taxi driver will tell you everything. But in a big bus it will be more comfortable and the guide will be nearby. The price will be the same. But a 5-year-old child will be difficult, or rather you and him.
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answered 15 years ago
If I were you, I wouldn’t take risks with a child. I always take such excursions with a child through a tour operator, it’s reliable and insurance.
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answered 15 years ago
insurance does not depend on the tour operator, it is valid throughout the country, regardless of who you are traveling with. Reliability is also a subjective factor. Many times I met problematic excursions from tour operators and very good ones from street agencies and vice versa. In general, I would not advise going on an excursion with a child of this age for the whole day. After all, he either drinks, then eats, then goes to the toilet, then his legs hurt, then he is tired of everything. Is it going to be a tour?
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answered 15 years ago
I agree with Amir1, all the more so in Luxor, even taking into account the fact that November can be hot for a baby
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answered 15 years ago
and also about the danger / safety of individual excursions - they drive, maybe like crazy, but for all the time in Egypt I saw only one accident - and then when parking at a restaurant, and on our streets in an hour how many more serious accidents you will see ?
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answered 15 years ago
I agree with Amir that it’s still like that
long excursion not for such a small child
get tired, be naughty
and you normally do not see everything you wanted
and the child is gone...
long excursion not for such a small child
get tired, be naughty
and you normally do not see everything you wanted
and the child is gone...
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answered 15 years ago
and that upon arrival, no one is warned that buying excursions from third-party companies is prohibited, and the tour operator in this case does not bear any responsibility for you. any excursion can be organized through your tour operator, even if it will be more expensive, you can get together in a small company and go together. and I simply do not advise you to carry a child under 12 years old with you on excursions lasting more than 8 hours. and the point here is not the heat, now after sunset the air temperature is from +15 to +10 closer to the morning.
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answered 15 years ago
the tour operator is not responsible for you in the host country NEVER!!! He is responsible for boarding the flight (and only for landing) there and back, for transfer to the hotel and back (more precisely, only for its availability), for checking into the hotel in the room you booked. Everything! During the flight, the responsibility lies with the airline, during the transfer on the carrier, while staying at the hotel at the hotel itself, for your health on the insurance company. The tour operator has absolutely nothing to do with it. If he also takes you on an excursion, then he is responsible for the availability of a bus and guides, and again, the carrier company, and not the tour operator, is responsible for transportation.
Upon arrival, they cannot warn that it is forbidden to buy excursions from third-party companies, because. this is fundamentally wrong. No one can infringe on your rights, including the tour operator. And who said that the Egyptian tour operator with whom you will go on an excursion is worse than some other?
So it's up to you to decide.
Upon arrival, they cannot warn that it is forbidden to buy excursions from third-party companies, because. this is fundamentally wrong. No one can infringe on your rights, including the tour operator. And who said that the Egyptian tour operator with whom you will go on an excursion is worse than some other?
So it's up to you to decide.
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answered 15 years ago
Amir1. It is always unpleasant to argue with you, but the truth is more precious. The operator is responsible for the tourist in the host country. If you want to become a true travel business expert, then learn the materiel. Look at the Tourism Act. I don't name the article. It will be useful for you to read everything.
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answered 15 years ago
Amir1 Article 18 "... the purchase of excursions is carried out only from the host company ..."
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answered 15 years ago
HotLine This is where your problem lies. You come here to argue. And you try at least once just to give an answer, without catching anyone. See how much nicer it is. Maybe I'm wrong. My lawyers have exactly the same opinion on this, as I stated. They come from the results of recent trials. Their methodology is based on practice, not theory. It's even harder for me to argue with them than with you. Give an answer, and we'll see if it even makes some changes in their work (although I doubt it). And anyone can blame someone for something.
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answered 15 years ago
krylovdm The tourist is obliged to perform what he signed, namely the contract. In the item "Obligations of the parties" there is only the following item:
5.2.10. Independently pay for additional services selected by him (Tourist) at his own request: transport services (not provided by the terms of the contract), services abroad of Ukraine (not provided by the terms of the contract), as well as other services not provided by the terms of the Agreement. .
I do not see any prohibition clauses in any of the contracts of Ukrainian tour operators. If you missed something, say what (name) clause of the contract.
5.2.10. Independently pay for additional services selected by him (Tourist) at his own request: transport services (not provided by the terms of the contract), services abroad of Ukraine (not provided by the terms of the contract), as well as other services not provided by the terms of the Agreement. .
I do not see any prohibition clauses in any of the contracts of Ukrainian tour operators. If you missed something, say what (name) clause of the contract.
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answered 15 years ago
HotLine, by the way, I have never seen representatives of the tour operator standing on the shore and watching so that I do not drown. This is done by hotel security guards. For example.
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answered 15 years ago
HotLine, listening to your words (which I always do), read the Law on Tourism again. Found the following:
"Liability for damage to life, health and property of a tourist is determined in accordance with civil law, if the contract for tourist services does not provide for increased liability of the tour operator. "
The code says look at the terms of the contract.
The tour operator must: "
to create safe conditions in places of rendering of tourist services, to provide proper arrangement of routes of campaigns, walks, excursions, etc .;
All. Where is the responsibility when staying in a hotel, while walking around the city?
Maybe I missed something? Glad to replenish my knowledge.
"Liability for damage to life, health and property of a tourist is determined in accordance with civil law, if the contract for tourist services does not provide for increased liability of the tour operator. "
The code says look at the terms of the contract.
The tour operator must: "
to create safe conditions in places of rendering of tourist services, to provide proper arrangement of routes of campaigns, walks, excursions, etc .;
All. Where is the responsibility when staying in a hotel, while walking around the city?
Maybe I missed something? Glad to replenish my knowledge.
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answered 15 years ago
the tour operator is the organizer. He must "create safe conditions ". From a legal point of view, this is to provide you with such service personnel who have all the tolerances required by the regulations of the country where everything is happening. If something happens to a tourist, the tour operator must prove that he provided a safe company that served you, and the rest is the responsibility of this company. The courts, in the consideration of this plan, have been going on for years and it is impossible to discuss it at this forum, so I think it is pointless to discuss it further.
Especially since tomorrow I will be on vacation and still can not answer.
Especially since tomorrow I will be on vacation and still can not answer.
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answered 15 years ago
Of course, I am wildly sorry, I don’t know your Ukrainian orders, I just saw that tourists from Ukraine and Belarus are the most disenfranchised in other countries. I stop arguing with you (Amir1), because I am not a citizen of Ukraine, and being outside of it, I am not interested in Ukrainian laws.
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answered 15 years ago
krylovdm and what, in Russia it is so bad with it? Sorry, I didn't see that you are from Russia. Now it is clear why we did not understand each other, which cannot be said about HotLine. He is a Ukrainian, and the smartest on this site :)))))))))))))))))))
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answered 15 years ago
Amir1. Well, that's good - looked into the law.
Now what? Do you still think that "the tour operator is not responsible for you in the host country NEVER !!!"?
Now what? Do you still think that "the tour operator is not responsible for you in the host country NEVER !!!"?
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answered 15 years ago
HotLine now I have confidence in my lawyers. Although sometimes you need to check, but without you, I would simply believe them at their word. The Law does not really say that the tour operator is "responsible for the tourist." All arguments are listed above.
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answered 15 years ago
HotLine If you mean exactly this phrase, torn out by you from the text, then it is really incorrect without further explanation. I get the impression that you are a deputy. They're the only ones who know how to do it. And also my ex-wife
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answered 15 years ago
HotLine and let's you AT LEAST ONCE will not continue a discussion that is unnecessary to anyone. Let's end on this cheerful note, especially since tomorrow is my jam day, and the day after tomorrow I have a vacation in Thailand and I absolutely don’t want to spoil the mood with unnecessary conversations.
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answered 15 years ago
Are you talking about the topic?
You have a strange relationship with me. I express my opinion, and then I quote for a long time what has already been written.
I quote myself - "It is always unpleasant to argue with you, but the truth is more expensive."
It turns out that you are mistaken not only in the professional sphere, but also in your personal life. But you can get married a second time, but for violating laws and licensing conditions, you can be deprived of the right to engage in tourism for life.
You have a strange relationship with me. I express my opinion, and then I quote for a long time what has already been written.
I quote myself - "It is always unpleasant to argue with you, but the truth is more expensive."
It turns out that you are mistaken not only in the professional sphere, but also in your personal life. But you can get married a second time, but for violating laws and licensing conditions, you can be deprived of the right to engage in tourism for life.
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answered 15 years ago
HotLine "and let's you AT LEAST ONCE will not continue a discussion that no one needs. Let's end on this cheerful note, especially since tomorrow is my jam day, and the day after tomorrow I have a vacation in Thailand and I absolutely don't want to spoil the mood with unnecessary conversations."
And it gives you the greatest pleasure. How do people tolerate you?
All right, I left. On vacation.
And it gives you the greatest pleasure. How do people tolerate you?
All right, I left. On vacation.
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answered 15 years ago
HotLine By the way, thank you for the birthday wishes! You are original. I like it! :)))))))))))))))))))
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answered 15 years ago
By the way, to have a different opinion is not to be mistaken. And digging into someone else's life is the greatest baseness.
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answered 15 years ago
Amir1, it seems that this is your personal blog. 15 posts in this question!!. Wives, lawyers, birthdays, someone else's life, a trip to Tai, moralizing...
I will continue to quote, now in your words -
"You need to clearly answer the question if you are a pro."
It's from here
http://www.turpravda.com/question-7519.html
I will continue to quote, now in your words -
"You need to clearly answer the question if you are a pro."
It's from here
http://www.turpravda.com/question-7519.html
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answered 15 years ago
HotLine By the way, I didn't start it (as always, mind you). Why is it so hard for you to calm down? A person who does not know how to go to reconciliation is doomed. But if on such a day you decided to get me (again, you), then I will answer.
Do you know why we have disagreements in the answers? Not? It's elementary. The level of your knowledge is the level of knowledge of a girl who sits in my agency, reads literature, laws for half a year and went to 2 advertisers. After that, she considers herself sooooo smart and begins to give advice to tourists, bringing them any well-read nonsense. After the remarks, she snaps and tries to prove something else there. She does not know that theory without practice is dead and 90% of this theory works in practice in a completely different way. Look at your profile. What can a person who sits in the office (even if not half a year) advise tourists, has seen 2 countries and then only in advertisements, where they lead you by the hand and wipe their noses? Only what you recommend.
You can't take wishful thinking for reality. Laws are rarely enforced the way they are written. And if you want to advise people with benefit (precisely with benefit), I advise you to break away from the office and at least once try what tourism is on your own skin.
Do you know why we have disagreements in the answers? Not? It's elementary. The level of your knowledge is the level of knowledge of a girl who sits in my agency, reads literature, laws for half a year and went to 2 advertisers. After that, she considers herself sooooo smart and begins to give advice to tourists, bringing them any well-read nonsense. After the remarks, she snaps and tries to prove something else there. She does not know that theory without practice is dead and 90% of this theory works in practice in a completely different way. Look at your profile. What can a person who sits in the office (even if not half a year) advise tourists, has seen 2 countries and then only in advertisements, where they lead you by the hand and wipe their noses? Only what you recommend.
You can't take wishful thinking for reality. Laws are rarely enforced the way they are written. And if you want to advise people with benefit (precisely with benefit), I advise you to break away from the office and at least once try what tourism is on your own skin.
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answered 15 years ago
Lord. Don't you think that you have long gone from the topic of the question? Is it time to stop this spam?
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answered 15 years ago
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